Elena Milova brings us another interesting interview from the recent International Longevity and Cryopreservation Summit, where she caught up with a Senior Scientist at the National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET) of Argentina, Dr. Rodolfo Gustavo Goya.

Dr. Goya admits he used to be a rebel from a young age. At 17 he decided he was not happy about aging and that he wanted to make a difference. He became a biochemist in the hope he could do something about age-related health deterioration, and he continues to rebel against mother nature to this day.

Dr. Goya has lead a number of studies on cellular reprogramming and restoration of function in important organs like the thymus and the brain. He is also daring to challenge death itself by studying different aspects of cryopreservation, and he openly supports cryonics as a logical extension of medicine.

In this short interview, Dr. Goya explains his interest and motivation in aging research, as well as his views on the potential of Yamanaka factors and their limitations in relation to human rejuvenation.


Dr. Goya’s team is currently exploring Yamanaka factors in relation to aging. These factors (Oct3/4, Sox2, Klf4, c-Myc) are the four master genes that allow cells to be rejuvenated and reprogrammed[1].

In 2011, Jean-Marc Lemaitre famously reset cells from people aged over 100 back to the state of cells from a 20 years old person[2]. This is the basis for induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSC) therapy, and our understanding of how these factors work has been refined in the time since then.  

Resetting epigenetic alterations – a hallmark of aging

One of the proposed primary hallmarks of aging is epigenetic alterations[3], but what are they?

You might be curious about how the various organs and tissues in the body are so different to each other, considering they share the same genetic code in our DNA. In fact, DNA is modified by epigenetic information that changes gene expression by either silencing, reducing, or enhancing the expression of particular genes as needed by the different tissue types. This is how, for example, liver cells or lung cells know what they are and how to behave.

You might consider epigenetics to be like a lens that focuses gene expression, and moving the lens around in different ways changes how those genes are expressed and how cells function.

Unfortunately, the aging process changes our epigenetic information, which is detrimental to our gene expression. This change of gene expression from a pro-youthful one to a pro-aging one is thought to be a major reason we age. Indeed iPSC experiments strongly support this notion as cells can be rolled back from an aged state to a nearly new state by activating the Yamanaka factors.

It was therefore proposed back in 2013 in the Hallmarks of Aging that epigenetic alterations may be a primary reason why we age; yet, the authors were unable to confirm this due to a lack of evidence in living animals. That all changed in late 2016.

Reversing epigenetic alterations in living animals

Recently, progress has been made using these factors in living animals, rather than just on cells in a dish, by Juan Carlos Izpisua Belmonte and his colleagues at the Salk institute[4]. Transgenic mice had their epigenetic alterations reset by using the Yamanaka factors in situ to reprogram them. Very much like iPSC therapy, but in a living animal.

This now opens the door for the possibility of reprogramming cells in people to make them functionally younger again. Indeed Dr. Maria Blasco and her team recently followed up the experiment by Dr. Belmonte and showed that when cells are reprogrammed in vivo it also resets telomere length.

Telomere attrition is thought to be another primary aging hallmark and a reason why we age[5]. This is very interesting, as it suggests that by resetting epigenetic alterations we may potentially get a two for one deal on reversing aging hallmarks.

Unfortunately, translating this reprogramming to humans is not as simple as the work by Dr. Belmonte, who created transgenic mice. These mice were genetically engineered to express Yamanaka factors when given a common antibiotic as a trigger. We cannot engineer humans in this way due to ethical considerations, and even if we could, this would have to be done at the embryonic stage. So the therapy as it is could not be used in already aged people.

Fortunately, we all have the Yamanaka genes in our cells but they are dormant. Dr. Goya believes the race is now on to find ways to activate them. This could be done by using compounds, gene therapies, or other more sophisticated approaches.


If a way to activate these dormant genes can be found, it would mean we could reprogram our cells and reset them to a functionally younger state, which would rejuvenate the body. The debate over whether epigenetic changes are a reason why we age or if they are just a consequence of aging continues, but with rapid progress in this area, hopefully the matter will be settled soon.

If it turns out epigenetic alterations are a primary cause of aging, then this will have huge implications for how rejuvenation biotech will play out in the coming decades. Equally so if it turns out epigenetic alterations are a consequence of other forms of damage and not a primary driver of aging,  for this is also valuable information.

This is why there is an urgent need to conduct more tests to answer these questions, so that future research efforts can then be focused on addressing the root of the problem. LEAF is supporting fundamental scientific research via our platform, a crowdfunding platform where researchers can host breakthrough projects to address gaps in our knowledge and drive progress forward faster.  


[1] Takahashi, K., & Yamanaka, S. (2006). Induction of pluripotent stem cells from mouse embryonic and adult fibroblast cultures by defined factors. cell, 126(4), 663-676.

[2] Lapasset, L., Milhavet, O., Prieur, A., Besnard, E., Babled, A., Aït-Hamou, N., … & Lehmann, S. (2011). Rejuvenating senescent and centenarian human cells by reprogramming through the pluripotent state. Genes & development, 25(21), 2248-2253.

[3] López-Otín, C., Blasco, M. A., Partridge, L., Serrano, M., & Kroemer, G. (2013). The hallmarks of aging. Cell, 153(6), 1194-1217.

[4] Ocampo, A., Reddy, P., Martinez-Redondo, P., Platero-Luengo, A., Hatanaka, F., Hishida, T., … & Araoka, T. (2016). In Vivo Amelioration of Age-Associated Hallmarks by Partial Reprogramming. Cell, 167(7), 1719-1733.

[5] Marión, R. M., de Silanes, I. L., Mosteiro, L., Gamache, B., Abad, M., Guerra, C., … & Blasco, M. A. (2017). Common telomere changes during in vivo reprogramming and early stages of tumorigenesis. Stem cell reports, 8(2), 460-475.



About the author

Elena Milova

As a devoted advocate of rejuvenation technologies since 2013, Elena is providing the community with a systemic vision how aging is affecting our society. Her research interests include global and local policies on aging, demographic changes, public perception of the application of rejuvenation technologies to prevent age-related diseases and extend life, and related public concerns. Elena is a co-author of the book “Aging prevention for all” (in Russian, 2015) and the organizer of multiple educational events helping the general public adopt the idea of eventually bringing aging under medical control.

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Steve Hill

As a scientific writer and a devoted advocate of healthy longevity technologies Steve has provided the community with multiple educational articles, interviews and podcasts, helping the general public to better understand aging and the means to modify its dynamics. His materials can be found at H+ Magazine, Longevity reporter, Psychology Today and Singularity Weblog. He is a co-author of the book “Aging Prevention for All” – a guide for the general public exploring evidence-based means to extend healthy life (in press).

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